Responses to We Told You So:
Reader Response to John Durbin (see John Durbin's letter below):
Dear John, thank you for asking for tothesource's thoughts are. I cannot respond for tothesource, but I can as a sister in Christ who has studied hard
and researched long on questions of import to me on Scripture interpretation and textual criticism. You said in your note to tothesource:
Because of these hyper sensitive issues of creeds, Scripture interpretations, textual criticisms of what the original or true text was and retaining "orthodoxy" I have kept myself out of divinity schools and such but I was wondering what your thoughts were. This statement reveals your assumption that seminaries and divinity schools are the source of sensitive questions, disputes, and bad interpretations. This may be true of some denominational schools who profess to have the only claim on orthodoxy.
But a more informed understanding is that such schools are the right place for such questions to be researched and debated.
Textual questions can and do arise from anywhere in any culture.
The theological academy is the right place to do a full scale research project on your issue(s) of import.
But to "keep yourself out" of the very places where scholarly research is done, studied, debated, and at least, for those who are really willing to do the work, are answered, for each new generation—to keep yourself from such places betrays your lack of curiosity to learn and experience the genuine faith and passion of active scholars today (many of whom I have studied under, like Dallas Willard, Gordon Fee, Eugene Peterson, James Houston, JI Packer) who are doing intense and excellent research with profoundly Biblical conclusions.
Your statement also makes me want to know just whom you are reading? There is much excellent scholarship available in theological seminaries, and if you take the time to investigate the non-denominational and evangelical ones like Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, CA or Regent College in Vancouver, British Columbia, or Tyndale in Toronto, Ontario, you will find that every theological view from most every living denomination is studied on any particular issue at such institutions, and that you are free to study in depth in any or all of them, and form your Christ-inspired decision for yourself.
Would this not be better than just universalizing your criticism of some scholars and conclusions to all theological institutions? Why cannot Christians with faith Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God do sensible, reasonable, and well done research for the Church on it's history and the manuscripts. Obviously your statement here is a criticism and question.
And you are trying to write a book to clarify theological history for the Church for others, but doing the research entirely on your own?
No guidance from those who have gone before?
How can you propose to be an expert on what you are writing about if you have not really studied in depth and breadth the history of the Church
that seminaries are here to teach? Such institutions are the guardians of the history and research from every age since the Church began, and they hold the volumes of literature and microfische that you would need to expose yourself deeply tom in order to become educated? I'm just tyring to get in to history and facts and write a book in simple form explaining orthodoxical Christian creeds and history of them. Sometimes, I find honesty and sensible research conclusions wanting.
But since you have judged such institutions universally, are you instead claiming
that you are reasonable and sensible and doing research 'well' by assuming confidence that Wikipedia, or the world wide web, or even tothesource, are sources enough for your research to write an informative book on Church history that will uphold orthodox Christianity?
What church historians have you read? Allister McGrath I recommend to you.
From a two-seminary-trained sister in Christ, I humbly suggest, please get educated by some institution where others who have been doing research for the Church all their lives can testify publicly, and with honor and integrity, that you have studied and learned, as scripture says, "to show yourself approved" —before you propose to educate others! - SP
I read some of your review and refuting of Ehrman's book Misquoting Jesus. I have concern too that scholors without faith in Jesus Christ are out-witting if you will, those who do. So I have things in common with you. One I do not though is the development and the problems with scribes with the deity of Christ as taught in the Nicean Creed. To me, this is indeed a problem, if not of doctrine alone, of view on scribal and textual bias of textual choice. Conybeare's work on Eusebius's quote of Matthew 28:19 is ignored? Is it ignored due to the popularity of the orthodoxy's position on the deity? Honestly, would it just be too "embarassing" to admit such a primitive error not only in very early copies of Matthew being corrupted but in orthodoxy's use of a trinitarian Great Commission? That is was accepted in albeit early yet corrupted form? I'm just tyring to get in to history and facts and write a book in simple form explaining orthodoxical Christian creeds and history of them. Sometimes, I find honesty and sensible research conclusions wanting. Usually this is in favor of defending an established and beloved creed. I suppose the same can be said of the Catholic interpretation of Jesus' brothers and other things "found" in the Scripture. Because of these hyper sensitive issues of creeds, Scripture interpretations, textual criticisms of what the original or true text was and retaining "orthodoxy" I have kept myself out of divinity schools and such but I was wondering what your thoughts were. Why cannot Christians with faith Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God do sensible, reasonable, and well done research for the Church on it's history and the manuscripts. Is anyone who does not accept the doctrines and creeds of Nicean still doomed as heretical today? That's a shame, and in many cases due to zealots of irrational and dishonest means. I was just hoping as it seems you are more in touch with scholors and orthodoxy today to tell me how things are going and what direction. I will bear by blame or cross for my beliefs as all will when we give account. If you could so kindly tell me what you think in a charitable way what direction biblical scholorship is heading and if you think I should stay away from mainstream, orthodoxical writers seeing that I see trinitarian errors and acceptance of errors. I'm just saddened that the old saying, anybody can make the bible say anything they want and anybody can prove anything from the bible is so true even in orthodoxical Christianity where it seems to me they should know better and they puroposefully overlook evidence. Thank you. Sincerely, -John Durbin
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