Responses to: "If Not Under God" Then
"Under Whom"?
When
I was in school in the 60's and 70's we were expected and
required to stand up and participate in the pledge and morning
prayer. If we didn't, we got sent to the principal's office
and worse to my Dad. In the 90's when my sons were in school
they were required to stand still, be quiet and participate
if they chose to. Any student who refused to at least allow
other students to participate then got into trouble. I doubt
their Dads did anything about it. Allowing a choice for
God isn't good enough for these people because so many of
us and our kids aren't making the choice that suits them.
So' the next step is to remove God completely so there can
be no free choice. This march to remove any and all references
to God has been going on for years now. Has anyone bothered
to look at crime stats now compared to 40 years ago. See
the connection? D.
C.
I enjoy your articles so I feel badly disagreeing with your
recent "under God," article. I'll keep it simple-
1. We don't say the pledge of allegiance in our church and
I don’t expect the school to say the creed. Mixing
the two is not beneficial to either side. Watering down
our faith to fit a pledge may even be dangerous.
2. Setting
up any situation where a non-believer (or one who believers
in gods as opposed to God) may feel compelled to make a
faith confession is not going to move them toward belief.
Only people who lives their lives "under God"
can do that.
3.
Parents who want their children to say "under God"
are more than welcome to teach them prayers at home and
to make sure they are attending religious education classes.
Blessings
in your ministry. I will keep reading and greatly appreciate
your resource! Pastor A. H.
I happened to notice the article “If Not Under God
Then Under Whom?” was very much like some writings
and speeches of David Barton, founder of Wallbuilders, Inc.
Barton’s research meets the rigorous requirement of
“best evidence” source documentation for his
footnotes. This standard passes legal evidentiary requirements.
So I made an attempt to find three points that I recall
I either heard or read of Barton:
1)
The Northwest Ordinance, a federal territory, had made it
law that Christian education was a requirement for candidacy
to statehood for that territory;
2)
That three states ratified the Constitution while even having
a state established church. This meant that three states
had a state religion so that every citizen of that state
was also a member of the state-church. It would not be until
circa 1840 that the last state would dissolve the state-church
establishment by request of its citizens that found it amenable
to have church members by voluntary dedication, and not
by mandate. One state was Virginia, and the other states
I believe may have been Connecticut and Rhode Island;
3)
A copy of the Bill of Rights submitted to the House where
the proposed amendment 14 on the Bill of Rights was stricken
by the Senate (but actually from an article not published
by Wallbuilders.). That amendment was a corresponding to
the 1st Amendment found on the same bill; but stipulated
that establishment of religion would be prohibited also
in the states. This actually makes sense when we consider
Barton’s claim on state established churches because
those states would be condoning a law that is against their
own sovereign disposition. J.
H. Jr.
Perhaps the answer is "Under our President," because
heaven knows he thinks he has the right to judge and protect
us. Rev.
J. C.
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