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January 8, 2008
by Dinesh D'Souza

side bar side bar side bar Asked by a British member of Parliament if he is one of those atheists who wants to get rid of Christian symbols especially during the Christmas season, atheist Richard Dawkins replied that he is not. Dawkins said that he himself sings Christmas carols and that he considers himself a "cultural Christian." Just as many Jews regard themselves as Jewish, defend Jewish interests and cherish Jewish culture while not participating in Jewish religious rituals, Dawkins says that he respects the fact that the history and traditions of the West are shaped by Christianity. Dawkins says he's not one of those who wants to purge the West of its Christian traditions. The main threat to Christian symbols, Dawkins argues, does not come from atheists like him but rather from Muslims and members of other faiths.

Now this is quite remarkable. In The God Delusion, Dawkins portrayed the Christian God as a wicked, avaricious, capricious, genocidal maniac. Dawkins even blasted Jesus for such offenses as speaking harshly to his mother. Yet if the Jewish and Christian God was such a monster, what sense does it make for Dawkins to embrace the cultural influence of that deity? It would be like someone saying, "Hitler was a murderous maniac, but I am a cultural Nazi. No, I don't embrace the specifics of Nazi doctrine, but I appreciate what fascism has done to shape German culture. Let's give up the specifics of the Hitler program, but let's also keep Nazi culture along with the fuhrer's imagery on our coins and monuments."

Dawkins is not an unintelligent man, so what's going on here? One possibility is that Dawkins now recognizes that today's atheists who want to get rid of Christian symbols are just as intolerant as Christians who in the pst sought to deny atheists a voice in the public arena. So Dawkins' statement can be read as a critique of intolerance and political correctness.

A second possibility is that Dawkins now sees the Muslim threat to the West--and especially European culture--as more serious than the prospect of a second Christian Inquisition, so he has decided to ally with the Christians against the Islamic radicals. Other atheists like Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens are now admitting that atheist attempts to equate Islamic extremism with Christianity are bogus. The real threat doesn't come from Presbyterianism or Anglicanism but from a radical Islam that wants to obliterate Western civilization.

I suspect that these two factors may have played a role, but the main reason for Dawkins' remarkable self-identification as a cultural Christian is that he has slowly come to realize that even the values that he cherishes--values such as individual dignity, science as an autonomous enterprise, the equal dignity of women, the abolition of slavery, and compassion as a social virtue--came into the West because of Christianity. I have been hammering this point in my debates with leading atheists, and it's possible that one of the Oxford historians came up to Dawkins and said, to his horror, "You know, Richard, that D'Souza chap has a point."

Okay, so let's give this biologist credit for learning a little history. Still, the deeper question remains. If the God of the Old and New Testaments is such a bad character, how come his cultural influence is so positive? Absent a good answer to this question, we must reconsider the premise: perhaps the God of the Old and New Testaments is not the evil figure portrayed in atheist propaganda. On the contrary, perhaps all our Western notions of good and bad derive from no source other than this Christian God. This certainly was Nietzsche's view, and he knew a lot more about the subject than Richard Dawkins. Wouldn't it be interesting if Dawkins continues his intellectual growth and reverses his old misunderstandings? Then he can reissue his book: Overcoming My Delusions: Confessions of a Cultural Christian.

 

 
 

Responses to The Great Debaters:

Dear Mr. D´Souza, Working in the jungles and mountains of South America for the last 15 years as an exploration geologist, I am commonly out of touch with much of what goes on in the US. Nonetheless, I wrote to you roughly a year ago after reading a column of yours asking for information regarding your favorite contributions of Christianity to the modern world and you recommended that I get a copy of your soon to be published book “What’s so Great About Christianity”. Since then, I have finished 70% of your book and logged onto Youtube to see your debate with Daniel Dennett and the Kings College video of your debate with Hitchens. It is encouraging and refreshing to see you demonstrate what is commonly portrayed in the public square as being utter nonsense, i.e. the notion that modern Christianity is composed of ignorant, irrational Neanderthals stuck somewhere in the belief systems of the middle ages. You clearly dust off and put a polish to the academic and rational pedigree of historical Christianity and lay bare much of what is currently portrayed as the academic sophistication and certitude of Atheism for what it is: narrow minded, arrogant self aggrandizement. As you note in one of recent columns the atheist response to your debates rather loudly speaks for it self: an angry snarl rather than a reasoned, academic response. Thanks again, for reminding the world, though it may not be listening, that Christianity is a treasure trove of academic, cultural, moral and spiritual jewels that is well worth finding, exploring and experiencing. - C.S.

Just saw your debate with C. Hitchens on PBS; I enjoyed the give and take at a very high intellectual level; Wanted to let you know I look forward to purchasing your book on Christianity. - T.A.

I am grateful to be able to receive tothesource. Keep up the good work! God bless. - B. McNally

Dinesh - Please be careful. Do not permit your God-given intellect to lead you to swagger. There is more at stake here than the outcome of the latest shootout at the OK corral, not the least of which is your own spiritual health. Keep up the good work, continue to fight the good fight with humility and honour and good humour, and may Almighty God bless and keep you. To The Source - I wonder if your topic selection is becoming somewhat one-dimensional. Where is "Principled Pluralism" on religious freedom, military intervention, the impact of youtube and postmodernism, or any number of such concerns. There is much to think and say that has little to do with Dawkins, Hitchens or Harris. - Charles Kooger Regina, Saskatchewan


Enjoyed your article on debating atheists. Get them to debate Josh Mcdowell and watch them squirm. - Thor Johnson

Hi Dinesh, I recently discovered a book review of 'What's so Great About Christianity'. I have since discovered your website and watched your debate against Hitchens. I hope to see many more of your debates. I want to congratulate u on your efforts, I pray that God would continue to work through you as I think it is important that there are Christians such as yourself willing to take the fight to the wave of Atheistic Fundamentalism that seems to be most visible in our Western Society today. I don't have your debating skills which is clearly and important tool in the box needed at times, I'm glad you possess yours. Keep up the good work mate. Cheers - Tim

Regarding a written debate with Sam Harris. Arriving at the truth with the help of experts does seem bizarre. Do you really think that truth emerges through these debates? I happen to think that Dan Dennett won the debate, How is this possible? Maybe a debate between a leading Christian, Muslim and Jew might finally allow the truth to emerge. Of course they'd have to then debate the winner of the Buddist vs the Hindu. Read twice then think about it. - M.M. quebec

There are surely good arguments in favor of belief in God—more so than atheism’s opposing arguments. I have no problem with that. By the way, the underdog debate team in the movie took on Harvard; in reality, they took on USC. - C.B.

While I have not seen the movie, I have been told by several others that it is a very good production based on a true story. I think the most recent To The Source article does little to compliment that fact. Indeed, the whole article is rather taunting of those who are choosing not to debate. To present such an article does you no service nor does it do any real service to your readers. Such cock-of-the-walk boasting should have no place with any of us. Other than this most recent article I have found your work quite refreshing. Please do not be pulled into childish boasting. It is beneath you. Blessings to you all - William Lumry

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Dinesh D'Souza, the Rishwain Research Scholar at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, served as senior domestic policy analyst in the White House in 1987-1988. He is the best-selling author of Illiberal Education, The End of Racism, Ronald Reagan, The Virtue of Prosperity, What's So Great About America, and The Enemy at Home. His new book What's So Great About Christianity was released in October of 2007.
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